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Logan Sekulow: Welcome to Seculo. This is Logan Seculo. Will Haynes in studio. Rick Renells will be joining us a little bit later. Leading with the breaking news having out of Washington D.C. And we're just now starting to get information on this. And that is the White House currently on lockdown as well as certain areas have been evacuated. This due to a couple different things including a car that jumped curb and plowed into an informational sign near the White House on Monday prompting police to order the driver to driver to the ground as the Secret Service moved journalists indoors. But there's also reports of another incident that is happening same time. They are saying these are separate incidents incidents but included I believe someone jumping a barricade. Again, this is happening all in real time. I want to make sure that we are keeping you updated when things like this break. And it happened to be happening right before we went on air. We decided, hey, we need to shift our headline here because it is a breaking news item. We will continue to follow it as more progresses. But again, the White House on lockdown right now after a car crashed into a barrier. Again, President Trump believe in Washington D.C. This is happening with President Trump in town as well as again a secondary incident that we're again Will just told me this as I was sitting down.
Will Haynes: That's right. So what we're hearing from the Secret Service as well as the National Guard are that they responded to the north side of Lafayette Park at 16th Street and 8th Street Northwest where a vehicle crashed onto the sidewalk. This is a statement from the Secret Service. The driver was combative with law enforcement but was quickly placed under arrest. You can see in the video that we're showing on screen as the the individuals law enforcement they rush around to that driver side. A lot of obviously law enforcement on scene as that is a very highly sensitive area. But at the same time, a second individual jumped a barricade northern Northwest corner of Lafayette Park. And that individual was also quickly placed under arrest. Obviously this is all happening in real time. We will see if there's more information, if one was a distraction for the other or or what is going to go on here. But this comes at obviously a very interesting time as we are just now coming off the the big elections of last week where the Democrats took a major lead. And we heard quite a bit from the president this weekend in that 60 minutes interview as well as him elevating Stephen Miller to Chief of Staff on while Susie Wiles is departing the White House. A lot of moving parts we'll get into it but we had to bring this breaking news to you immediately. They did say that that items were taken from that vehicle. They had a explosive ordinance disposal team that did a sweep of the vehicle. It doesn't appear that there were any explosives that are being reported at this moment but still journalist moves indoors, White House placed on lockdown all at a very tense time in Washington D.C.
Logan Sekulow: Yeah, I see a very tense time a week under a week from the midterms. And then obviously as things started to ramp up and threats as we know are not taken lightly in this administration nor should they be. Uh we have seen that across the country is obviously there have been major attempts on lives of members of the cabinet including President Trump himself. Now we will keep you updated as things progress. I'm sure there'll be more that breaks over the next hour. We are going to continue and discuss other topics as well including that really groundbreaking 60 minutes interview President Trump had just last night that aired. I watched the full extended cut which was available on on CBS's YouTube which was nearly an hour. Thought one of the better interviews I've seen the President Trump whether you agree with what he said or disagreed. He kept the tone right. Congrats to that journalist today. Fantastic job of asking hard questions while still remaining respectful. I thought it was a a really fascinating look into the mind President Trump here in 2026 the post midterm defeat if you will. And we kind of got a little bit of a preview of what's to come including replacements that could be coming to the cabinet and some of the top topics including immigration, Israel, all these ones the war in Iran where he thought there could have been mistakes. And one of the big ones obviously that he referred to directly was they'd be being a little too tough on immigration that maybe that did you know turn off some voters. We're going to discuss that and more coming up. If you did see it, I'd love your thoughts. 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110. If you are just tuning in, yes, the White House currently on lockdown as a car rammed through the secure areas of the White House. There's not a whole lot of information yet but we are keeping you engaged in that as well. The ACLJ has launched our stand strong campaign. I'm going to get into that we get back a little bit more but you can have your donation made today.
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Logan Sekulow: Welcome back to Seculo. I know a lot of you are tuning in right now and you're seeing that breaking news item the White House on lockdown. We're going to cover that right now and then we'll move into sort of some other topics of the day because we don't have a ton of information. What we know is that a car essentially rammed through secure area by the White House jumped to curb plowed into an informational sign. Person was apprehended and arrested. At the same time we're getting reports that you can see the footage right now. At the same time we are getting reports that another person tried to attempt to jump a barricade. Uh they don't believe that these were linked but that does feel a little suspiciously timed. And currently the White House is on lockdown are also at the same time a journalists were removed inside and people that were not yet were evacuated. So taking this very seriously. So I want to make sure we cover that right off the top. One of the other things happening of course was sort of the the groundbreaking interview that happened last night on 60 minutes. And this journalist name
Will Haynes: Ross Douthat.
Logan Sekulow: Ross Douthat. I have to say I want to commend him. I think he did an excellent job asking real questions, not getting frazzled the not also kind of triggering the president to get up and leave or do anything was not disrespectful but asked real hard questions about the status of kind of the the movement in 2026 after that pretty resounding defeat last Tuesday. And President Trump maybe one of the more forthcoming interviews that he has done. You may disagree with what he has to say but at least he seemed like he was being honest with what was going on. Of course there was some political talk saying, you know, this was the best two years of any other president and all all the stuff you're used to hearing but then when pushed back on it specifically involved in immigration. I think President Trump is aware that a lot of people had very mixed feelings on the level that some of the ice raids kind of took. How harsh it became and that you saw it being a little bit turned off. You know the American people get a little turned off by some of the extreme nature of it. Now at the same time you have President Trump then putting in Stephen Miller instead of Susie Wiles which you would think would certainly indicate the opposite. So I 'm not so sure about that but I think we should play some clips here. I will.
Jay Sekulow: Yeah, let's go to this. This is Bite 10 and it's about a minute long because as you pointed out the the tenor of this interview and the pacing of it was a very good conversation. There was back and forth but it wasn't just sound bite sound bite sound bite as you maybe used to seeing on a CBS you know 60 minutes interview. And I want people to remember Ross Douthat was one of the concerns that everyone's had about when Scott Pelley left and was forced out of the job and obviously when when things changed with the editorial nature of CBS News and and 60 minutes that it was just going to just destroy it. I've heard more people talking about this interview than people have talked about 60 minutes in a very long time. So yeah, maybe Barry Weiss and those that are at CBS News are doing a good job of making it relevant again instead of it just being a waste of time.
Logan Sekulow: If I searched 60 minutes on YouTube last night to find this interview says a lot.
Jay Sekulow: But let's play Bite 10 because I think this was the most surprising shocking moment for anyone watching this about when when asked about how he could work with a Democratic majority what President Trump offered up as the potential path Bite 10.
Will Haynes: You came out after the midterms. You congratulated the Democrats. You said that you are open to working with them. What is one thing you would like to work with a Democratic majority
Donald Trump: Correct. True. I'd love to do something on immigration
Will Haynes: What?
Donald Trump: because well so
Will Haynes: Do you think immigration hurt you in the midterm? Do you think the crackdown
Donald Trump: I think I think I think it both helped and hurt. I think I got an A plus for closing up the border because we had 25 million people come in through Biden over a four-year period and many of those people were as you know they were from prisons, they were drug dealers, they were from mental institutions, they were from all over the world not just South America.
Will Haynes: And some of them some of them as you once said are good people.
Donald Trump: I think I get an A plus. No, I I said that yeah some are good and some are really bad. You had 11,888 murderers most of whom more than half of whom committed more than one murder. They were allowed into our country. We've gotten most of them out.
Jay Sekulow: And then he goes on and we can play some more later but even right there that he is still repeating that you know there were bad people in this country and we've gotten most of them out. He's saying that that is a victory. You also think about how much the border has been completely shut off as a pathway for illegal migrants coming into this country compared to especially what was happening under the Biden years. When you look at like the graphs of it, it's shocking. And also how easy it was for an administration that just wanted to turn off the flow of migrants into the country they could do it almost immediately. But then he is bringing up the fact that he thinks that it hurt him in many ways and that that's where he thinks he can maybe work with Democrats. Now I want to know from people watching. This is obviously a different tone than you're hearing. He also signaled in some ways that maybe this isn't the path they're going to go by elevating Stephen Miller. When you heard this and this is the bite that's getting played often is this something that concerned you? Is this something that you're like this isn't what I voted for? But at the same time President Trump is the one who is the president and has to figure out how to not completely be a lame duck. We heard from a lot of people last week when we brought up that we didn't like the decision of saying the no funding for Israel at the end of this year. We had a lot of people in our in our chat say you just got to trust the president though if this is the person that the people voted for. I flipped that now to the audience of that may be concerned or don't like this answer on immigration. Is this something that that frustrated you or do you still trust the president to work with Democrats in a way that is still his agenda but may not look like exactly what you thought it was going to look like.
Logan Sekulow: Yeah, it's interesting to see some of those comments coming in because there are a lot of people who want to push back on that saying, you know what, this isn't what we voted for. This is we wanted deportations. One of and I don't think President Trump necessarily is pushing back on saying that there should be deportations. Saying maybe it just you know maybe the selection committee of who was first to go that we were a bit too much on the very beginning of this. And I I think look the American people as much as you want to paint especially Republicans or people that voted for President Trump it's very easy to paint them with a very broad brush. I think there is a large percentage of them that said, you know what, there is a difference between someone coming in who is doing incredible amount of harm to their community who is trafficking in drugs or in this or people that have been here 20 plus years, 10 plus years, have a good paying jobs who have been trying their best even if their crime was they got here illegally. Maybe they did escape what they were in the situation they were in and they did something wrong and there should be consequences to that but maybe those consequences should be measured. I do think there is people with empathy, there are people with sympathy who who feel a little bit different for you know the people who have come to America to seek a better life versus come to people who come to America to cause destruction.
Jay Sekulow: Well and I think we should play this bite. This is the following bite right after Bite 10. It's 11 on our list but this is that continuation of this conversation where President Trump is talking about the difference between the high marks he got for the many individuals that were committing more criminal acts once they got here. And sometimes getting lenient attention from the government from from the judicial system even though they were repeat offenders. This is Bite 11. And then after this I want you to call if you disagree with this, if you don't like that the president said this or if you think this is part of the strategy 1-800-684-3110. We want to hear from you on this today. Let's go ahead and roll Bite 11.
Donald Trump: For getting people out I get very high marks for getting the bad ones out but I get hurt because we also took people that had good jobs that that created one violation or breaking of the law. That was that they came into the country illegally. Now there is a large part of the country that think that they should be put out. And there's a large part of the country that think that they should be allowed to stay if they're good people working in a landscaping company or working in a hotel or doing something, right? And in some cases paying taxes.
Will Haynes: Mhm.
Donald Trump: And there's a large group of people think that they should be allowed to stay. So uh
Will Haynes: So you so you think your deportation policy went too far? It was too tough.
Donald Trump: I think it was too tough. I think it might be too tough, yeah. And a lot of people would say that it's great but a lot of people think it 's too tough.
Jay Sekulow: Well and even then it keeps going and he talks about that specific angle is what he thinks he could work with Democrats on. Now there 's people saying is Trump becoming an amnesty president? He's put he would obviously push back at that but once again I think that that's a real conversation that he's willing to have at this point.
Logan Sekulow: Well the border states are fairly controlled by Democrats right now. When you look at the you know I saw a meme that was like a joke. It was like look they built the wall and it was you know sort of the the blue wall that that literally is the entire border now including Texas to Mexico. So of course there's going to have to be real discussion here. And if you are proud of the fact that there hasn't been many if any uh border crossings recently and that really did dry up and became this massive success we're going to how have to start looking at how you work so it doesn't unravel over the next two years. What do you think about that? Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. Did want to touch again cuz I do see the numbers keep going up so I know people are seeing that headline. Yes, as of right now I don't know if we have any update on this. Uh the White House was placed on lockdown. Not sure if it currently still is.
Jay Sekulow: So it appears they have shrunk the perimeter because it was a full block around basically that entire area that was shut off. They have shrunk that perimeter. We can talk a little bit about this when we come back but uh once again they said that that individual in the vehicle was combative with law enforcement which goes to show also this wasn't someone that was texting on their phone and ended up hitting a sign. It seemed like it was an intentional act and then they fought back against law enforcement as they were being placed into custody. We'll keep you updated on that but a a very um alarming situation at the White House this morning right before we went live.
Logan Sekulow: Yeah, sadly
Jay Sekulow: Thankfully Secret Service jumped into action.
Logan Sekulow: Sadly as expected you know this has been a hot bed for the unwell if you will. People who have really really been tormented by what's been going on in the news media and with this administration and and this are again more results of that. Uh I want to talk to you more when we get back also about the work of the ACLJ. We got to make sure we don't forget about that but we're going to keep you updated on the news of the day. We'll be right back.
Jay Sekulow: We've witnessed monumental legal victories from defending the 14th Amendment and protecting our sacred American right to vote, the overturning of Roe versus Wade, and standing up for the religious liberty of our kids and seniors. But even with the many historic wins we've achieved, the battle is far from over. The attacks on our constitutionally protected rights persist. Countless unborn babies remain in jeopardy and across the globe innocent Christians are being targeted and killed across this country and around the world. This fight isn't just the ACLJ's. It's all of ours. It belongs to every American who wants to preserve the values and beliefs on which this nation was founded. None of the victories we've won would have been possible without the unwavering support of ACLJ members and ACLJ champions. It's been an honor to fight for you all these years. Join us in fighting for freedom. Have your donation doubled at aclj.org/freedom. Across our nation the principles that have shaped America for generations are being attacked. The lives of innocent unborn babies are still in jeopardy in numerous states across the country. Our education system is being hijacked as the left tries to strip parents of their God-given rights to decide where and what their children are taught. And religious liberty it's under attack especially for Christians. It's moments like these when the temptation to give up grow stronger but that's exactly when you have to decide will I stand firm or will I just watch the waves tear away at our foundations? We need people who understand that religious liberty isn't just a political talking point. It's our God-given right. The stakes are higher than ever but we are not helpless and we will not back down. Go to aclj.org/stand right now and have your tax deductible gift doubled to stand with the ACLJ today.
Logan Sekulow: Welcome back to Seculo. Uh phone lines are lining up. A lot of thoughts on President Trump's 60 minutes uh interview that again was a fascinating it's an hour long watch if you watch the extended cut on YouTube I actually encourage you to go watch it. I don't get anything out of that other than the fact that I think you're going to find yourself a little bit more in the brain of President Trump to see where his his mind currently is as he heads for two more years of his presidency uh in the fight against becoming what they call a lame duck president due to the fact that we've lost the Senate and the House and what are you going to do? And again that fight is going to grow stronger and stronger and he's starting to already moderate. I know some of you are happy about that. I know some of you are upset about that. Maybe that you are a more traditional conservative who voted for President Trump didn't necessarily love all of the MAGA language but maybe you thought well I'm definitely voting for a Republican over a Democrat even if I don't like a lot of the things that President Trump has to say and maybe some of the extreme rhetoric. And on the other side if you voted specifically for that rhetoric and for that guy who is going to deport everyone and do all these things maybe you look at the 60 minutes interview and you uh are upset about it. And we have calls coming in on both sides of that conversation. I think we should take one. Let's start with Heidi who's certainly not thrilled. Heidi, go ahead.
Heidi: Hi, I disagree with uh Trump and um what you call it uh he what's the word now I'm I'm sorry. He complains about the optic. He claims that illegal the illegal roundup costs them the election. I mean that's the implied thought there. But he doesn't mention anything about I mean what's he been doing the last two years on e-verify and de-banking them and cutting off direct deposits and seizing their assets and property. That's a low optic measure that he could have taken. But what he doesn't what he doesn't acknowledge is that DHS has found that there has been over 200,000 non-citizens that voted last week and that by legalizing if he legalizes these 100 million illegals here that's Greg Bonvino's figure the GOP will never win another election. It is completely unfair. The rules are for all and not for some.
Logan Sekulow: Heidi, I appreciate your call. And look I think you can look at sort of the last year of the DHS situation. That's something we can analyze a bit more. Obviously you had Christy Noem who get ends up getting replaced and her replacement comes in and sort of lightens it all. Becomes a bit more of a tolerable voice for the American people. And then ramped it up a little bit more. It got a little bit more heated but maybe you saw less of the I mean there were still accidents that happened but it felt like there was this running cycle. Well you're right. Maybe those kind of issues would have been a little less on the forefront cuz it's like of someone like said lost their their their willing their ways to to banking and those kind of things are different than guns on the streets, you know arresting people out of their homes. And then some people obviously tragically lost their lives that maybe that would have been a little bit more low impact that would have pushed this story a bit more into I don't know into a tolerable way.
Donald Trump: Well and I do want to push back on one thing that Heidi said. She said that DHS found that 200,000 non-citizens voted. That is not a verified number. That comes from actually where they were saying that they are concerned about about 250,000 on voter rolls that they were trying to investigate and the states were pushing back on. Now before people say, oh, you're you're trying to cover or take the left talking point the ACLJ has been on the forefront of this issue. We've talked about what we've been doing in Maryland and Vermont and California and across the country trying to ensure that the voter rolls are protected and kept certain but once again I I'm seeing this and I think it's important to push back at because if you don't learn from these things you'll never be able to to recover from it. When people start to push back at this midterm and say it was probably non-citizen voters that pushed it over. No, it was the the Republicans and conservatives state home. When you look at go from state to state even Tennessee where the where Marsha Blackburn was able to become the next governor of Tennessee and you have Bill Hagerty was able to keep his seat in the United States Senate. The margins were a lot slimmer than they normally would have been because a million people didn't vote in this election that voted in the last election. The same thing in Texas over a million and a half fewer voters and it wasn't uh those that were voting blue. So you can point to a a 250,000 number across the country and even at that point if that were true that didn't change the fact that a million and a half people stayed home in Texas and a million people stayed home in Tennessee. And we've gone through every state last week. So yes, it's a concern and something we fight for here but if the blame is on that for this election, no. I think one thing we're going to find out in in the coming years if conservatives don't figure out a better get out the vote messaging is that the biggest loss to conservative voting hasn't been policy wise. It's the fact that Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA were a huge get out the vote operation that is not the same as it was after his assassination. And so that I think is becoming evident as well. When you look at these states where college campuses and younger voters were energized by that organization it doesn't have the same effect as it did.
Logan Sekulow: Yeah, and then let's counter balance that and then look we're going to have a bunch of lines open for the next half hour 1-800-684-3110. Let's go to Donna in Ohio. Donna, go ahead.
Donna: Hello.
Logan Sekulow: Hey, go ahead.
Donna: Hi. This that my name's Donna and I want to talk about immigration because we had some bad people come in. The gates were open. Nobody checked them. They came in. He Trump had to get them out because they were killing people. But now we've got some older people who have been in the country for a long time. How they slipped in no one knows but they're not doing any harm. They're holding down the job. They're just not a citizen. They should be considered on merit. And
Logan Sekulow: Look Donna, I I understand what you're saying. I understand what you're saying. I I don't necessarily disagree with you. Uh you know I I I'll know in the comments people will will say that that's something that I've been soft on. I think a lot of us have felt for our neighbors uh who are who are not necessarily here uh legally. And look I I don't discount that crime. I don't discount that that is not something that should have been handled but you're right especially or or in the situations where people have brought their children. Their children have now grown up here and have lived here 20 years. And they're you know again maybe they're in your local schools, maybe they are in college, maybe they are working steady jobs and look it's tough. It's it's a lot easier probably to say anyone who's here illegally out the door. Um and and to do that with force. But to have a bit more heart in it takes a little bit more effort. And we have to decide kind of where we go. And I think President Trump is weighing those issues as well. With that though look I understand that it's been a tough week but we are fighting back strong still here at the ACLJ. And we're doing things a lot of them are our individual clients here. And and we've had issues. Look when it comes to the immigration there've been a lot of people who should not have been wound up in this whole thing. We know this. We know there have been mistakes that have been made. We've helped some of those people personally who were here legally completely legally or did have some sort of true and they're not amnesty true you know they were in wartime. They were escaping. They needed help. And America welcomed them. And then they were being forced back to their country. The ACLJ has helped where we could on some of these where it felt like it was a very legitimate reason and somehow they got swept up in what became those ice situations. That doesn't mean the ACLJ work uh in terms of defending your rights and defending your rights as an American citizen changes. And there's so much happening right now including in your own public schools. We've been talking about this whether it's parental rights, some of the content they've been forced to see. And today we're even actually in court and looking the notes here. We're in court court today defending parental rights against harmful content in public schools. Those are things that are happening on the individual localized level that the ACLJ team needs to be there for you. And we have a second half hour coming up. Not everyone here gets your full half our full hour if you're watching. You're going to find us. We we don't go anywhere. If you're just listening if you're on the terrestrial radio maybe find us on aclj.org on Rumble, on YouTube, on Facebook. We're broadcasting live. Of course you can find us archived where you get your podcast. Stand strong with us today. Have your donations doubled at aclj.org. We'll be right back in less than a minute.
Jay Sekulow: Across our nation the principles that have shaped America for generations are being attacked. The lives of innocent unborn babies are still in jeopardy in numerous states across the country. It's moments like these when the temptation to give up grow stronger but that's exactly when you have to decide will I stand firm or will I just watch the waves tear away at our foundations? Go to aclj.org/stand right now and have your tax deductible gift doubled today.